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So yay! we've got a good man heading into office on January 20th.

He's got a shit-ton of messes to clean up, but I think he will do right by us all.

This was the first time since I first voted in a Presidential election (1992) that I was seriously excited about the process. I loved seeing the excitement that others have/had as well - and I was blown away by the fact that so many people were eager to vote, no matter how long the lines or any other obstacles.

My hope is that we can continue to have this enthusiasm in the days, weeks, months... even the years to come.




On the other hand ... Hey fellow Californians!! WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK WERE YOU THINKING?????

You DO realize that you've voted for an AMENDMENT to the State Constitution. You know what an Amendment is, right? There these crazy things that allow us to speak freely, own guns and vote when you turn 18 - regardless of your race and/or gender, among other things.

So, yeah ... you're allowing discrimination to be legal. Why? Because you are so afraid that my wife and I, among many other married gay and lesbian couples, are going to corrupt The ChildrenTM and ruin the importance and validity of your precious marriage(s) {please don't get me started on that...}, because we can get married? Guess what? It was legal for about 6 months, and never did I hear anyone tell me that because I had the right - and later exercised it - their marriage was suddenly invalid or coming apart because we could get married.

I don't care what you've decided, fellow Californians - Kellie and I are still happily married, whether or not the state officially recognizes it. You can't take away love - just doesn't work that way.


That is all.

Love (maybe),

Me

Date: 2008-11-06 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martydressler.livejournal.com
i voted no on 8.

but as if you could ever tell since the totals for my county were 75% yes, 25% no.

Date: 2008-11-07 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hiddenmuse.livejournal.com
:-D

I think every No vote matters - even if they're only 25% of the votes in your county.

Date: 2008-11-06 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hikarinotabi.livejournal.com
I'm pissed as hell. Nonetheless, I'm keeping a close eye on both the final count and the two legal challenges that are already being brought forth. Of course, all my information, I'm getting from here.

Date: 2008-11-07 07:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hiddenmuse.livejournal.com
I'm interested in what happens with the challenges, hopefully the courts will get things set straight (so to speak) and Prop 8 will be repealed.

Date: 2008-11-07 07:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hikarinotabi.livejournal.com
I'm crossing my fingers. From what I can tell, because it directly contradicts a part of the state constitution, the equal protection clause or something like that, it would have had to been passed by 2/3rds of the legislature to be valid because it's changing the constitution rather than adding on to it? I really gotta pay better attention when I read things.

Date: 2008-11-06 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] choirgrrl.livejournal.com
I don't understand why people are so up in arms over the issue. Does someone's personal life truly affect anyone else's? No. If 2 people are in love, who's to say they can't be together? What gives anyone that right?
I was very disappointed today.

Date: 2008-11-07 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hiddenmuse.livejournal.com
Same here - it really upset me. I'd spent much of yesterday, and part of today, being a total emotional mess.

Unfortunately the Yes on 8 people managed to sway the voters and get them thinking that gays and lesbians are these eeeevillll forces that will swoop into your schools and corrupt your children and storm your church doors demanding to be married.

Yeah ... I think they're more fixated on my marriage than Kellie and I are!

Date: 2008-11-07 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] choirgrrl.livejournal.com
Wouldn't it be funny if the entire gay community in California did just that? (Stormed the doors of all the churches) Wouldn't that show 'em?

*is still upset over all this!*

Date: 2008-11-06 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slashxmistress.livejournal.com
California, Florida, Arkansas- all failed Tuesday.
In Arkansas we're apparently unfit to raise children :(

It's like a said in my post yesterday- we're still a nation of bigots.

I don't care what you've decided, fellow Californians - Kellie and I are still happily married, whether or not the state officially recognizes it. You can't take away love - just doesn't work that way.

Absolutely! well said. It's just ridiculous that they think they should get a say in that anyway!


Date: 2008-11-07 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hiddenmuse.livejournal.com
Thank you so much. It is ridiculous that people think they can dictate to others how to live their lives, according to *their* agendas and ideas.

The Arkansas decision is absolutely batshit crazy. *That* feels like forcing your ideas onto someone else, because it's how everything should be done. And it's especially bad for kids that are in the foster system, because they are going to be deprived of families that would love and care for them, and be so grateful to have them in their lives.


Very nice Ryan icon, there. :-)

Date: 2008-11-07 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feelingcold.livejournal.com
It makes me so angry to think that civil rights are being given the same treatment as the naming of a sewage treatment plant. This is not a decision that should be determined by popular vote.

I got to the point where I couldn't even pay attention to the arguments because they made me too angry. Don't tell me you are 'protecting the family' while you completely invalidate my family. Don't tell me you are saving the children while you do your best to undermine their family structure and break the bonds of their parent's marriage.

I know I shouldn't say this, but I'm happy to see people finally getting mad. I understand the need for commercials where old, white, heterosexual spouses express how prop 8 hurts them too, but what I really want is a "How fucking dare you?" commercial, or a "Contrary to your belief you are a bigot. Stop defending your bigotry by inventing fictional gay friends who are totally cool with you denying them rights." commercial.

I'm sick of the idea that you should ask politely to have equal rights.

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